Renewed Life and Reciprocity: A Visit to Pastor Quentin’s Church

Episode Description:
In this heartfelt episode of Branches of Faith, we take you to Renewed Life Church in Peoria, Illinois, a small yet passionate congregation led by the energetic and inspiring Pastor Quentin Johnson—known as “Coach Q” to many.

What happens when love, faith, and service meet in one of the most underserved areas of town? Join us as we reflect on themes of reciprocity and renewal, inspired by Pastor Quentin’s powerful sermon about recognizing love, receiving grace, and returning it to others, no matter the challenges we face.

We’ll share our experience exploring this vibrant church on Peoria’s south side, including Pastor Quentin’s touching lessons from Hebrews, the warmth of the community, and how this humble church is making an extraordinary impact.

Whether you’re looking for a fresh perspective on faith or simply a story that will inspire you to pay love forward, this episode is sure to leave a lasting impression.

🎧 Don’t miss it—listen now!

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 Thank you for joining us for the Branches of Faith podcast, where we explore faiths across all religions by visiting a different house of worship every week.  Here we share our reflections and observations. Thanks for listening. 

Hello, hello. Welcome back to the Branches of Faith podcast. I'm Kate and I'm joined here by my husband, Ben. This past Sunday, we visited Renewed Life Church in Peoria, Illinois. We picked this church because the pastor, Quentin Johnson, also works at our kids school. And once we found out that he pastors a neighborhood church in Peoria, we knew we had to add it to our list.

We knew nothing about it, but we were super excited to visit. Check it out. He's a great guy. The kids love him. He's the super fun guy that runs the before and after care at the school. Bill's in to help out with P E. And I think substitute teaches a little bit here and there. So yeah, great guy. 

Can you tell them what what's the name of that camp? It's the camp of champions. 

Yeah. 

The, or that he, that he's part of. 

Oh, I don't know if he's part of it.

The before and after school. 

Oh, champions. Yeah. Camp of champions. Something different. Yeah. It's called champions. Just before and after. Oh, it's just called champions. Yeah. I don't even know what it is really. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Into my organization. 

They call him Coach Q. 

Mm-hmm . 

Yeah. 

Yeah. Apparently he's an amazing basketball player.

Is he? 

Yeah. 

He's there every morning and drop off and every day pick up 

like a really, really, really good basketball player is what I've heard. 

He's not real tall,  

but very quick, probably quick  makes up for it. Yeah. Yeah. So as we've done this branch is a faith project for a year now, which is awesome.

I think, what is this, our 16th, 15th or 16th one? 

I want to say 14th. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's definitely season two though. It's pretty cool. I started season one was 2024. I think this is awesome. Season two.  

What's, what I have found is really cool is that the comfort level that I have going into these new places is so much stronger.

Like I think the first couple of places I went into, I was sweating  and I'm nervous and maybe not the first couple because I felt pretty good about what we were getting into. But I think I was still anxious because I felt like stealth,  you know, I don't want to say spying, 

like a secret shopper, 

but I didn't want it to be like that, but that's how I felt.

And I felt like someone was going to call us out or something and nobody you're going to get caught. Yeah. Secret shopping, Jesus or churches.  Yeah. So I just I've gotten so much more comfortable. Not only in just being very open about what we are doing with our project 

and that's how this one came to us I mean you're open to and you find out that quentin's a pastor of a church and so you approach him And like this This now comes to us instead of us going to the churches in this way.

This church came to us, 

right? Yeah, and that's how pastor greg with united fellowship ministries happened too because  Tenant linda went to church there. And so we decided to go there So yeah, that's becoming a little bit more organic and how we find churches rather than just google searching Yeah, just as much 

dart on a dartboard.

Yeah, And the comfort level, I think of going into someplace new and being confident in what, how I'm going to be in that moment, I think feels really good. We've had enough diverse experiences now that I feel pretty good about where we're going. Not to say something crazy might not happen sometime, but you never know.

I hope it does. Yeah, for it. I'm here for it. Yeah. 

Now that being said Quentin's church is on the far south side of Peoria. So it was kind of funny as we were driving down and down and down further south along Adam street, which goes down along the Illinois river. We just kept going and going and you were like where are we going?

Where are you taking us?  What is this place? 

The last time I was down on that end of town, I was Going to try out a motorcycle and  it was being run from the rambler  Boutique store. That's right. 

Yeah, 

and that was the janice motorcycle thing. And anyways, I was spinning around the block and The block kind of comes it's not like a square there.

It's more like a triangle. And anyways, i'm coming to this intersection And I was like, I should probably turn left here. Cause I don't want to be on a motorcycle, you know, at this part of town, anything could happen, you know? And like a rough 

area, it could 

be a rough area. Yeah. And the guy behind me at the intersection gets out and he's like, Hey,  are you from around here?

And I was like, no, not really. He's You're heading into a pretty rough part of town. 

Really? 

Yeah. 

I did not know this. And I was like, well, I was 

going left anyways. He's Oh, okay. 

Wow. 

Yeah. 

Interesting. 

So that was the last time I was over there at that intersection. Oh, 

okay. Down at that really far.

Okay. I know what you're talking about. All right. Well, geez, Ben, these things I'm learning. 

I was going left anyways. Like I knew where I was.  

So, yeah, I 

mean, all that to say that like these, any part of town needs a church, you know, but this is a rougher part of town. 

Yeah. It's in a zip code 6 which is probably the lowest income zip code of Peoria.

And I think it consistently actually falls in the top 100 lowest incomes of codes in the United States. Even I read recently. Well, yeah, pretty wild. But what I think is neat about that area is that. Cause it's really not too far from Pastor Greg's church a few blocks away is that when I have driven down in that area you really can't hardly go a couple of blocks without finding a church.

There are churches everywhere down there. Just 

driving there the other day, we saw like, Hey, there's a church. And then we pulled up to the next block and there's another church. 

There's so many. And some of them are big and grand, like the old St. Anne's Catholic Church. That's right. You saw that one.

Yep. And then most of them are pretty modest and a lot smaller, you know, probably smaller communities, kind of like Quentin's church that he has. 

It's probably some of the oldest neighborhood in Peoria, too. I would agree with that. Yeah, 

I think so, too.  Yeah, look into it, but I did not have time to do that.

So this time though, our kids came with us because they know coach Q from the school. They know him. And so they were excited to come along and it's been neat to see them get more comfortable with this. So when we first started this, we. Gave them the option to join us. Although actually the first couple of times, I don't even think we did because we didn't really know what we were getting into and we didn't want to potentially be an uncomfortable and an uncomfortable situation and also have them be in an uncomfortable situation.

But as we got into it, we started to say, Hey, you guys want it? You're welcome to come, come with us if you want to. And most of the time they were more than happy just to stay home and sit on the couch and watch. Sunday morning cartoon to eat whatever they could find in the cabinet that we don't normally like marshmallows and chocolate chips and chocolate chips,  

whole bags of chocolate chips.

Yeah. 

Just gone.  So, um, but they came, they've come to a few with us now. They went to the Catholic Church, to the Cathedral.  And that was one I think we kind of insisted on they come to just because of the architecture. And I was like, they're gonna really like this. And then they came to the Hindu temple because they know Miss Jyoti.

And now this one, and I think that's it. I don't think they've been to any others, but they came to this one. And I'm really glad they did. It was neat to see them be part of this and I don't know, watch Finley get really into, I think Finley, who he's our 14 year old, especially really liked being part of it.

And listening to somebody that he knows from school and a coach setting listening to him preach for the day. We finally arrived, we got to the church, like I said, driving through residential streets, Renewed Life Church, 1418 

South Faraday. 

Yep. We parked walked up the steps of the church, went in pretty quiet in the lobby.

I don't think I heard anything. There was nobody really in there. New from looking at their website, they had Sunday school right before the service. So Sunday schools from. I think 10 to 11 and then the service started at 11 o'clock. So I knew something might be going on, but We don't always know where when that sort of thing is happening So we've seen this on a few other churches that we go to that something's going on prior to it but we don't know when  You know, is it in that same room?

Is it going to be in a room somewhere else and people going to show up like what's happening? So in this case  We walked in and went on into the chapel area, which was behind a couple of closed doors, and it appeared that their Sunday school was happening in there. And there was a lady up at the front, I think giving a testimony or sharing something maybe that had happened to her or something, some way that maybe she had seen God that week or something.

We came in really at the tail end of her story, but people stopped and said hello.  Yeah, 

they stopped and then the Oh, who was it? Not deacon. Who  was it that came who was the host? 

Oh samika samika 

She came out and so they stopped their little conversation and they came up and greeted us And introduced everybody by name.

Yeah, I think 

did they stop at midway or? It was just at the tail end, but they still stopped. Yeah, 

And then So we introduced ourselves and the kids and then they invited us You we naturally kind of position ourselves further to the back  

when I wasn't sure if a whole bunch of people were made going to filter in that, you know, churches, a lot of times people have their set seats, you know, and so eating 

up in front.

Yeah. So we kind of, we are usually about two thirds of the way back and they're like, come on forward. But it was, I thought what was cool was seen. Quentin  register. Yeah. Like, I think he's seen me at school. He's seen you at school. He's seen the kids of school at school, but he had never put the four of us together as a family.

He didn't realize that. And so I think he first saw me and I looked probably somewhat familiar to him and then he saw Finn and he's okay, yeah, I know these people. Now I get it. Yeah. And so I think it was pretty neat. It seemed like it was neat for him to have a student from the school show up. At his church he did say another lady.

I think that the main PE teacher had come one time. Yeah, last week, Pam. I don't know if it was last week or when it was, but she had been before. Yeah. And so a few people have come now, which is really cool to see. I'm glad that people are crossing the river. 

So then the person who was speaking picked up where they left off and it wasn't really just more than another minute or so of her kind of giving a little bit of a, Well, the explanation about how she felt God in the past week and then,  and then what happened? 

Well, and then I think Jerry got up. He's a deacon 

and 

he read a passage. 

Hebrews. 

Yeah. I don't remember what it was exactly. He read a passage and I think that was kind of the theme for the day. And then they played a couple songs. 

They sang him on high. 

Okay.  Actually, the kids knew that song. I think Finley was singing along with it.

So it must be something that they sing at school too. I noticed he, and I think Genevieve maybe even was too. I'm like, okay, well, 

did you see that set up that they had for Facebook live? 

Yep. 

Yeah. They had that set up ready to go. It was uh, Reverend Johnson's wife setting that up Charlotte. 

Yeah, right. 

Yeah, so they have that and not a lot of people. It was very small. There is, it's a small building. It's 

22 pews. With an aisle down the middle, there's windows on both sides. It was well lit. Chandelier lighting from the ceiling and then like a stage.  Area up in front with a standing pedestal was clear.

It was like a plexiglass  

Clear one before 

yeah, and then some foliage up on the stage. Did you see the really cool thorn and  Spikes on the table in the front. Yeah, some Yamaha speakers  Yeah, he was able to just play some of these songs right from his phone, 

right? and he mentioned that he That's pretty new. 

Was it? Okay. Yeah. 

He said, we just started doing music pretty recently. 

Okay. Well, he said he's been approached by people who want to be paid to play there, but he didn't feel like he needed to be spending money that could be going to better use. I didn't know that. Yeah. He was saying something about that when he could just play music like this, that he feels good about and he wants to play.

It was hard to justify, I think spending money on something like that for such a small church. But the music was good and I thought it was neat that the kids knew the songs too. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, after that, then 

he, I would say the whole thing was divided into two parts for me. It was like something happened at 1130 where like he flipped a switch from 11 to 1130.

That was the hymn on high. It was singing involved. There may be two or three songs. He did make a point to say. To tell a story a little bit about how he had bumped into his uncle, and he hasn't seen his uncle in a while, they haven't seen each other, and his uncle made the comment of I haven't seen you in so long that I forgot what you looked like.

I think 

his uncle called him, and so he was getting ready to go visit his uncle in a week or two. 

Okay. 

Yeah. 

And then that kind of sprang into the second half. And that's the second half of his sermon was much more succinct. I think it had a lot more of the moral fiber. And I don't know if he was just loosening up,

but yeah, I 

think at the beginning too, he was, He made a big deal about us being there in a good way. Like he was very excited about special thanks to the guests. Yeah. And he talked to me a couple of quick stories about maybe fin about seeing them in school.  Yeah. And how cool that was to see them and just talking about the type of church they are.

And I think kind of getting us up to speed a little bit with, Who they are and what they do there. Because he has a smaller church, so he can kind of be flexible with that, which is nice to most pastors wouldn't have that flexibility to just have that kind of conversation with their congregation like that. 

So, yeah, you're right though, around 1130, halfway through, he really started preaching more. 

The message was from Hebrews. It was about uh, Jesus giving them advice on their, before they were exiled and saying that essentially that, you know, I've got plans for you. So knowing that you're going to go be exiled and you're going to be living.

70 years of a tough life, having to flee your native land, know that I've got plans for you when you're done. Mm hmm. And so This is 

how you can be exiled well. Right, and this is how I kind of 

take this gracefully, prepare for it, and to know that I'll still be with you when it's all said and done at the end of the 70 year exile.

And he paired this with the story of his uncle in, in the way of that,  when his uncle first said to him that, Hey, I haven't seen you in a long time. So long that in fact, that I don't think I recognized you  that hurt his feelings. And so it was kind of a sermon about how sometime truths can be uncomfortable and how that we can still rely in, you know, the faith and the guidance and the leadership of Jesus to know that like things are going to be uncomfortable, you know, and sometimes that's part of the  obstacle is the way.

And so,  

Yeah, 

I like that Ryan holiday stuff, but so he gets into that story about his uncle and you remember when he said something about the lemon face, 

it was hilarious. It was pretty funny. I really liked that part. He said, 

sometimes there are these people that you see out in the world and they just carry with them this lemon face, like they're sucking on lemons.

He said, they might be preaching to you, but they still have their lemon face. And man, you're not going to want to take the word of God from somebody with a, with a, with a sucked, sucked, sucked on lemon face, sucked on lemon face. That's what he said. And then he kept making the face and it was funny and he kept talking about it.

Yeah. About being a person with a sucked on lemon face. Yeah. to be that kind of person. 

Right. So when you reach these adversities, you know, these moments of exile in your life that you can,  I guess, essentially take it one of a couple of ways. And one is to have that sucked on lemon face. He's he kind of said that was a term that was used in his youth.

His dad was, his dad would say that or something like that. And you know, you see these people out in the world and they're just they're living a life. And. For all intents and purposes it's a pretty good life, but they have a sucked on lemon face because they just choose to see their exile that way.

You know, their obstacle that way. 

He compared a lot to being a parent also. Yeah. He talked to four boys and I think he said they all gave them different challenges. I think we experienced that too with our kids right now. Each child gives us their own challenges. They're both pretty good kids, but they have their moments and how as a parent, you just want to set your kids up. 

To succeed. Sometimes, you know, they get grounded or what, I don't know. I'm trying to how he tied that in. He did a much better job than I'm doing obviously right now. Do you remember? 

Oh, well, yeah, he was just saying repetition, you know, what do you have to do to try and get through to them? You end up getting to the point where you get so frustrated that you're like, aren't you listening?

And. The return to the obstacle is to the, is the return to the practice of repetition. And that's kind of what parenting is. And that's kind of like what Jesus was. You know, so in that way, Jesus is kind of like the father figure. 

Cause as they were getting ready to be exiled, it was after they had already done so many things.

Right. And they're like, Hey, I'm like, Oh my gosh.  Yeah. And 

they're thinking to themselves, Hey, I keep on doing this stuff, but you know, it keeps on happening to me. Like these obstacles keep on coming my way. And it's just, it's still hard. And Jesus says. It's supposed to be. Mm-hmm . You know, it's supposed to be hard and,  but I'm with you, but I'm with you.

Yeah. I'm with you every step of the way. And I'll, I'll be there at the end too. 

Yeah. Yeah.  

What else?  Something about it reminded me of, he, he made a comment that extending grace, the way that God puts his love in you, that if you receive love, you have to kind of reciprocate that. Hmm. Like you're obligated to like. 

Do two things to look and see and feel the love that you get from people. And then you're obligated to go ahead and return that back to the people around you. 

His comparison was like, if Finley, our son came up to him in the hallway and was like, Hey, Pastor Q, you know, straight up or, you know, fist bump or whatever.

Did you say straight up? I did. Is that not what you say? I hope that's not what he says.  Hey, Pastor Q, straight up.  Yeah, no, I'll have to have a talk with him.  

He probably doesn't say. I hope 

not. Yeah. 

Well, what do you say? It's just a fist bump. Up high, like if you do a high 

five. You gonna like take out your trapper keeper and  put on a snap bracelet?

I am a very solid middle aged white woman. I don't know what's cool anymore. So whatever, if Finley offered. 

He just says hi and gives him a fist bump. 

Offers him some skin. You 

could stop.  Strike three. What a roll now, guys. 

Anyways, and Pastor Q says no or walks away from him. 

No, he mentioned something about like how he has an obligation, he's got to go do something and he might be in the frame of mind like, Oh, you know what?

I don't want to do this. Or I've got to go do this thing later and I really just don't want to do this right now. Uh,  You know, I've got to go talk to somebody and I really don't want to have that conversation right now. But then if you're open to it, you can see it, you know, somebody like, you know, Finley might come walking along and just, you know, get you a pound on a fist bump and just that is enough to allow him to Do a 180 and be like, okay, that's love and affection.

Like I'm, I'm loved here. And so I should take that love and I should go ahead and put it into this, this place that I'm going into this exile. And I'm going into this place, this scenario that I don't want to be. I'm going to carry that with me. I'm going to carry that affection with me as I go into it.

Gotcha. Okay. Cool. 

What I was beginning to say though, is it reminds me of the, a meditative practice about the dog, you know, you can. Yell at a dog and scream at a dog and tell the dog to go outside and leave the dog outside in the cold And nine times out of 10, 99 times out of a hundred, when you let that dog back in, it's going to be happy to come back in, you know, no matter how shameful you may have tried to make that dog feel or how  neglected that dog has been for hours.

And it could be sitting out in the cold and it doesn't come in angry, you know, it doesn't come in sad, feeling pathetic for itself. It comes in happy to be there. And There's something about what he was saying, kind of reminded me of that, like coming back to this, this place of appreciation of you know, I'm loved and I should reciprocate and I should bring that love back.

Even if I'm left out in the cold, even if I'm, you know, sent away to a place, you know, from a place that I want to be at. And it, it just reminded me of that kind of meditative practice. 

He also talked about a lot about how our past doesn't necessarily define who we are now. And how Our past lives, if we've made mistakes, or past times in our lives, if we've made mistakes, that that part of us is dead.

If we're willing to move forward with that. He said that we're in the flesh, and the flesh is flawed.  Right. Which is interesting because I'm reading a book right now that talks about that. It's about a man who was suffering from a pretty big, great depression of his own. And how he's trying to come out of it and learning how to come out of it and how he's trying to accept that that past version of himself doesn't have to mean that that's his present version of himself and his past wrongs don't have to define who he is right now.

So Pastor Quentin's sermon really tied into what I've been reading right now also about that. 

Yeah, I have here in quotes that he said, God has renewed me and given me a new start. So  maybe there's something there for him. You know where he had something in his past and something was given to him or he was able to see it.

Yeah he's always a very joyful person. I've whenever I see him at the school. He is always out  Giving out all that love and happiness and kindness to the kids and he's brand new at Bethel this year I mean he could have come in and maybe not made such a big impression But I think he's doing really well like getting The kids would think he's really cool, you know, way better than I would probably do, obviously.

Yeah, you'd be saying up high.  The kids would be like, oh my gosh.  

I would not do it well. 

Don't go down that hallway. There's that lady again doing up highs.  Gotta go down the other hallway.  

If you're avoiding me. 

Yeah. Oh, be in the hallway over there by yourself. Just look, looking around  

ready 

to give some up eyes. 

Oh my gosh. Yeah. Okay. 

Reciprocity. I mean, he was just talking about making sure that you return it. Yeah. You know, that you're loved and you're appreciated by God. And I think there's, it's important to notice that there's two things there. Like you have to see it because you can't return it. You know, you can't reciprocate it if you aren't in the position to be able to see it.

So keep an eye out for it. And that.  You know, once you're able to see it and appreciate it, then you have to return it. 

I think is what he's doing. And I think that's why he felt called to start a church in that neighborhood. 

So he doesn't have time to walk around with a.  Walk around with a sucking lemon face.

Yeah, I don't have time.  There's not enough time here for this. 

Absolutely So yeah, it was a really nice  Chance to get to know him a little bit more check out his church 

There's a good sermon for 2025 like the start of the year. 

I agree I was like, I thought it was a great way for us to start the new year Yeah, you know set some good intentions and think about what matters to us and what we can be putting out That's good in the world 

Mentioned something too about not eating ice cream.

He did. 

Yeah. Oh like about how like the Flesh is flawed and you how you have all these temptations and  how you have to kind of get to govern your Flesh, 

right? He tied a lot in yeah in 25 minutes We did I feel like because I feel like he covered a lot of things but succinctly and really well, especially 

in that second half It was real crisp  and boy, he looked good.

Yeah. Yeah. Don't like a three piece suit.  

Yeah. 

Best like a burgundy red.  

Yup. So we'll post pictures on our,  well, I don't know if we do on our buzzsprout page, but I can't post 

pictures there, but tell about the website. Oh, 

I do. Yeah. I finally, Katie 

sat down for several hours and she cranked out a website.

Yup. I finally have a real website here for our branches of faith. So it's just branches of faith. com. And I'm going to hopefully.  Embed each podcast in kind of blog style where I'll talk a little bit about our experience but not a lot because I really would just rather Let people listen to our podcast but give a brief synopsis on the blog and then embed it or have a link to it And post pictures so people get just all in one place.

 Yeah. What else? Anything else you wanna add? 

Mm, I don't think so. 

All right. He did tell me that in the, I think in August or so, they usually do a neighborhood cookout.

I was asking him, you know, what happens in the neighborhood here? What's that like for you being in a, like literally in a neighborhood, like right next door, there's houses.  Yeah, you're driving residential Street, so it's not like a commercial area where a sub or main drag or anything like that where a lot of churches are.

And so he said they host a cookout, they do a backpack giveaway, so they're doing what they can with probably limited funds because it is a pretty small church, but doing what they can to have a presence there and mm-hmm . They've only been there a few years, so takes time to grow and hopefully more people start noticing them. 

Start showing up. It's great for them to be right there in that neighborhood. Like that'd be so easy for people to go  

It really gets me thinking about just How this must be taking place in all sorts of cities and small town areas all across the country Absolutely, you know these tiny tiny little churches With just super passionate people.

Yeah, and when I was driving yesterday thinking about Reverend johnson and his church. It reminded me a little bit of You A discomfort I had when I I once drove down and I brought some supplies and school stuff to people who survived hurricane katrina And I went down with ben wellenreiter and chuck nagel and I think it was just the three of us Anyways, we drove down like two u hauls worth of like school supplies and desks and stuff And you know when you get there, everything's just just ravaged, you know Devastated like cars up on top of houses and everything's just destroyed You Homes just completely leveled and to meet the people and they're just so happy and they were so optimistic and it's just this contrast between you know, this small town and These big dreams, you know, these big hopes and these big eyes and these big smiles  and It just, it makes me think that that must be happening all over the place.

You know, and it's, it's kind of a sweetness, you know, to know that there are these efforts being made, you know, to try and lift up everybody and all of these little tiny pockets and these little tiny areas that you wouldn't even think about. If 

you drive around that area down in that zip code area and there's a church every two or three blocks, you can, you can take a right turn and there's another one.

It's just amazing how many churches are down there. We can take a year and just do probably churches in 6 1 6 0 5 zip code.  Every week, probably. Peoria. Oh, yeah, but like Southside, we could easily, it would take us a year. I don't know that I 

realized where, you know, that there were that many until we started this.

Yeah, that everybody's 

that there's so many people that are trying so hard to do that. And that's Very motivating. Yeah, it's inspiring. I guess inspiring is the word I'm looking for. But yeah, it's really cool So way to go pastor Quinton and stay strong Yeah, keep it 

keep it 

on 

your 

members and your wife and everybody who's there is pouring into that I think that's not something that you're doing.

Everybody 

was so nice. 

Yeah, it was great. I would go back sometime. Definitely 

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